An NHNE Y2K Special Report:
NHNE Y2K VisionQuest: Part Two
With Vision, The People Flourish
Thursday, April 8, 1999
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NHNE Y2K VisionQuest: Part Two
With Vision, The People Flourish
Thursday, April 8, 1999
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1. SETTING THE STAGE
Doing It Right
The NHNE VisionQuest Discussion List
The Power Behind NHNE
I Am, Frankly, Paralyzed
One Big Joke
The Rate of Change Would be Dramatic
Laying Low In Redway
The Calm Before the Storm
Honest, Helpful Thinking
It Is Like You Are Inside My Head, Spirit & Soul
The Writing on the Wall
Echoed Many of My Own Thoughts
My Heart Goes Out
Karl Marx, Space Invaders & Y2K
I See Y2K As A Global Rite of Passage
We Don't Want to Meet Some of Our Reflections
The Missing Piece
Y2K & Improvisation
Their Foot In the Door?
In the Middle of the Road Group
Y2K Isn't Special, It's Just More Universal
The Hidden Code of Y2K
Get to Know Our Maker
We Can Face This & Survive
Share Information, Focus on Your Family
Now Is Time to Stretch Into Unknown Territory
"I see Y2K as a global rite of passage which has the potential to sufficiently
destabilize the dominant paradigm to allow an opening for the Creative
Force to re-enter our lives and inspire and encourage us toward building
the world that many of us have long dreamed and imagined."
--- Robert Riversong
1. SETTING THE STAGE
By David Sunfellow
Y2K, as everyone on this mailing list knows, could cause very serious
problems, or nothing much at all, or any number of possibilities in
between. Is there anything we can do to find out just how serious Y2K
is going to be and what, exactly, you and I need to do about it?
I've come to believe that human beings have several faculties with which
to solve mysteries and find our way around this world. These faculties
can be compared to our five physical senses: seeing, feeling, tasting,
If we come upon a sleeping skunk, and only use our sense of touch to
figure out what it is, we could end up in trouble. But if we are also
using our sense of sight, and smell, we'll have a better idea what we've
run into -- and what to do about it.
Most of the people who are tracking Y2K today, are tracking it from
an analytical or intellectual perspective. They read the news, monitor
meetings, hearings, surveys and critical events, listen to various analysts,
perhaps study modern and historical patterns, and try to determine how
serious Y2K is going to be. While this kind of research provides us
with valuable information, it often misses huge chunks of information
that is not available to intellectual processes.
Dreams, visions, intuitions, inner voices, and other forms of inner
guidance, on the other hand, can expand our awareness and carry us into
places far beyond the intellect. But our inner faculties also have blind
spots and weaknesses.
The trick is to use all the faculties we have -- physical, emotional,
mental, and spiritual -- to discern what is happening and chart an effective,
well-rounded course of action.
Equally important, we also need to involve other human beings in our
process who can fill out and deepen the picture.
This Special Report, along with our weekly news reports and other Y2K
projects, are increasingly focused attempts to tap all the faculties
we have, and join together with as many different people as possible,
to get a clear bead on Y2K (and the tumultuous times in which we live).
DOING IT RIGHT
Part One of our three-part NHNE Y2K VisionQuest Special Report consisted
of an overview from me (http://www.nhne.com/y2kreport/specialreports/srvq1.html).
This part (Part Two) consists mostly of feedback from NHNE readers.
And Part Three will contain whatever inspirations, insights, and experiences
emerge from our upcoming visionquest.
Originally, our visionquest had been planned for this weekend, but we've
decided to reschedule it for Saturday, May 8th and Sunday, May 9th.
We decided to do this because we realized we needed more time to organize.
We also realized that many of you may have little or no experience with
visionquesting, and we wanted to be sure everyone who was interested
understood how, exactly, to organize an effective visionquest in their
part of the world before launching it.
We also realized that teaching folks how to conduct visionquests --
individually and in groups -- could be extremely important in the long
term. So, too, could building a global visionquest network that could
be activated when other potential crises knock on our collective door.
So we're going to take our time on this one, and do it right.
THE NHNE VISIONQUEST DISCUSSION LIST
To get the ball rolling, we've set up a special listserve, "The NHNE
VisionQuest Discussion List." This list has been created to help those
of us who are interested learn how to conduct visionquests and also
to help organize NHNE's May Y2K VisionQuest. If you want to participate
in this list, all you have to do is send a message to:
The list will be facilitated by myself and David La Chapelle. David
and I both have many years of experience organizing visionquests, in
a variety of settings, using many different techniques. We are also
hoping to be joined by others on the NHNE Mailing List who have experience
in dream work, questing, and other forms of inner seeking.
To begin with, the discussion list will not be moderated. This means
that everyone who joins the list will be able to post messages directly
to everyone else on the list. Early on, we'll probably spend as much
time getting to know one another as we do talking about various visionquest
issues. And then we'll start hammering out some concrete plans for the
May quest. As things develop, I'll post periodic updates to the mailing
list at large so those of you who don't want to participate in the day-to-day
listserve discussions will know how things are unfolding.
THE REAL POWER BEHIND NHNE
And with that, it is my pleasure to share with you the real power behind
NHNE: our growing network of seekers. As you will see from the following
letters, we are sitting on a gold mine of experience, inspiration, and
hard-earned wisdom. Working together, I have no doubt we will be able
to find our way safely through whatever storms may come our way -- Y2K
or otherwise -- and continue to help a more conscious, loving, spirit-filled
world be born.
With Love & Best Wishes,
[The following letters were written in response to Part One of our
three-part NHNE Y2K VisionQuest Special Report (http://www.nhne.com/y2kreport/specialreports/srvq1.html)].
I AM, FRANKLY, PARALYZED
It appears to me quite evident that we are in the midst of profound
transformation in the planetary body and planetary consciousness, and
thus also in human life, evolution and consciousness. I have absolutely
no fear that this transformation might be negative; I am certain that
we are passing through a spiritual doorway which, like all spiritual
doorways, will reveal greater light. Nor do I doubt that the transformation
will be challenging, even painful and mortal, for many, perhaps including
myself. I am convinced that we are to go through this doorway together,
however alone we may feel. And that our way through will be to banish
fear, to summon forth as much love and joyous confidence as we are capable
of, to help one another and love one another wholeheartedly, and, if
possible, to laugh the whole way through.
That being said, let it stand as credo. To be followed by confession:
I am an intelligent, usually resourceful, fairly independent 58-year
old woman. I have lived for the last 20 years in a spiritual community
in the northeast. I thought that I would be there for the rest of my
life. I thought that I would pass through this time of planetary transformation
within that community. I was preparing a home and land for the long
haul. Yet...poof! In an instant, gone! Everything is always changing,
and really, we just never know what's going to happen next! So now,
quite out of the blue and without really knowing why, I find myself
living in Arizona, where everything is new to me and I know almost no
one. I have no inclination to start the acquisition process all over
again, to build another solid-appearing life and identity in this new
place. My life now is more about "going naked." All the possessions
of home and things, including all the bottles and storage jars, all
the food gradually gathered, the wood stove, the alternative light sources,
the sanitary preparations...left behind. Living now from month to month,
no steady work, a rented apartment. I am, frankly, paralyzed by the
thought of acquiring all those physical objects: what to gather, where
to store it, how even to think about what is needed, all those lists,
and the sheer cost of it all.
Your work has been to inform people and awaken us to our ability to
respond, to take proactive steps to prepare for whatever may lie ahead
-- and, preferably, to do that together. I am only one of these people,
and what I am saying here is that I have not yet gotten dislodged from
what looks like apathy, but is really more a sense of being overwhelmed
by the complexity and scope of the project: simply to figure out what
I, a single woman with dog, would need to pull together to be in a state
of readiness. There must be hundreds, thousands, like me.
I think what I would like is for someone who is really knowledgeable
to make, from the many "lists," ONE LIST: "Here is what you need for
one person for one month. Multiply it by as many months as you yourself
feel necessary." Specifically: How to do the toilet thing. How to store
water safely. This one is daunting. We are talking about enormous quantities
of water. I simply cannot comprehend how to store 3-6 months of water
in an apartment. I have also been advised that in the coming period
plastic may become affected in such a way as to render it unsafe for
food storage. What do I do with that information??? And so on, and so
And doing this all by myself, instead of with neighbors, friends and
community members -- inconceivable. But, frankly, the neighbors do not
seem interested. At least not yet. Though I'm working on it, sort of.
Thank you for your work. Best wishes in whatever turns your path will
take from here on.
Northern Arizona, USA
1. Ted Derryberry provides a list that partially addresses Barbara's
More lists can be found on the wild2k "Y2K Preparation Lists" Page:
2. When my family and I first moved to Sedona 1986, we met a fellow
who was a staunch believer in the earth change predictions of Edgar
Cayce. He was so convinced that Cayce's dire predictions were going
to happen that he moved to a remote part of the country and spent several
years designing and building a house and stockpiling it full of supplies.
About a year after his house was completed and a year's worth of food
and other supplies stored away, it burned to the ground and everything
was lost. Feeling that several years of his life had gone up in smoke,
along with thousands of dollars, he was crushed. According to him, he
almost committed suicide and it took him several years to recover. When
we met him, he had given up all plans to buy land and build earth change-proof
houses. Instead, he had poured his time and resources into building
a fully-equipped survival bus, which, unlike the house he had labored
so long and hard to build, could move, and, I suppose, outrun fires!
It reminded me that nothing in this world is permanent and whatever
physical preparations we do make, had best be guided by spirit and built
on spiritual foundations. -- DS]
ONE BIG JOKE
This has been a rather difficult winter healthwise for me. I have been
in and out of the hospital several times and thought for sure my time
had come. So did the doctors. I believe God still has work for me on
this side so here I am. Just getting my next breath seems to have been
the most important issue for me.
I wanted to share with you a very special experience I had one night.
It has really brought about a very deep change in attitude and I still
find myself laughing and feeling love and joy from this dream.
The night before this dream, I had been up all night doubled over coughing.
I believe one can cough themselves to death, which is not the way I
want to go. I was very mad at God. I could not feel His nearness. I
did feel detached from my body, but could not understand why I had to
be going through this. I still don't. Death is just fine with me. Pain
is not. Fear is not.
Next morning I went to the clinic and they sent me to the hospital where
I spent the day. That night I could breath. I fell asleep and had an
out-of-body experience. I don't know how to describe it. It was like
being in a higher mind or in God's presence. It was a place of absolute
perfect peace, love, joy, happiness. I was in a place of being totally
overjoyed. From this vantage point, I could look down on all creation.
I could see the wars, the pain and all the awful suffering of humanity.
And I saw it as ONE BIG JOKE. Everything here was an illusion. Something
we have made up, but which is not real. Only God is real. I laughed
and laughed so hard I woke myself up laughing with tears pouring down
Meher Baba always said life is a mighty joke. I could not understand
that at all. For the life of me it always eluded me how that might be.
But I really saw for myself what an illusion this all is here, all of
it. It is a joke. Nothing here will last. We are all eternally safe
and love alone will prevail. This dream seemed to open up a flood gate
of love and joy because lately I am just drowning in an ocean of love,
joy and bliss. I am so grateful for each moment.
Anyway, I had to share this. I feel we must do what our inner guidance
tells us and for now all I can feel is, "Don't Worry, Be Happy." We
can not heal this world. We can not change this world. This earth has
come in and out existence many times and will continue to do so until
all return back to God. It is so simple: it is all done with a change
of mind. Our mind creates our world. When we truly choose God, this
world will disappear and an unseen world of absolute perfection is ours.
God bless you and all who journey towards our true Home.
Live Oak, California, USA
THE RATE OF CHANGE WOULD BE DRAMATIC
I appreciated your piece setting out your reactions. I was particularly
glad that you reminded us to be careful of the screens through which
we see Y2K and transformational issues. It is a real danger. On the
other hand, we need to be aware that we may actually be seeing correctly.
For example, it was clear to me that the Kosovo decision was an unmitigated
disaster because of my memories of World War II. The dangers are now
being played out.
As you may know, I have been engaged in promoting the idea that fundamental
change is needed for over forty years. My greatest error has been to
assume that we would be quicker to recognize the need for change because
the need for change was obvious to me. All too often this has not happened,
at least at the level of visible communication channels.
It is my personal belief, however, that the current apparently dominant
norms are now very brittle and fragile. If all of us who know that real
change is needed were to act creatively and imaginatively in our own
specific realities to do what we could, I am convinced that the rate
of change would be dramatic. Indeed, I am more concerned about success
than about failure for I see little sign that we are ready to cope with
I am now looking at what we could do to have more effective links in
the noosphere, to use Teillard de Chardin's language.
Spokane, Washington, USA
LAYING LOW IN REDWAY
David: Your comments on how the Sedona group was going (or not going)
really struck a chord with me.
I started presenting Y2K info on my monthly radio show over a year ago.
As I became more convinced, I was "pushed" to start awareness meetings.
We've had 36 of them so far. At first, attendance was low: three to
five people. I put up a few flyers, sent out letters to churches and
community organizations. Then some other folks asked me to be part of
Y2K presentations. Attendance of the weekly meetings grew, and we had
between eight and 13 folks. It was time to start getting out into the
community. I attended a meeting in a town 75 miles away to find out
about their organization. They had committees going, and were out talking
to those in the area: city government, utilities, etc.
I came back to our local meeting all fired up and ready to start community
work. Our community is very small in rural northern California. We have
no city government, or utility companies, and our water systems are
little more than large-supply, privately-owned operations. Also, many
of our populace lives pointed toward self-sufficiency. We have wood
stoves, gardens, springs, animals and orchards. We experience power
outages on a regular basis.
The next meeting after my trip north was attended by only two people
beside myself. The next two meetings only one person showed up. And
that's the way it's been for a few weeks now. And let me tell all those
other Y2K "nuts" out there that it's been a constant struggle NOT to
beat myself up for doing whatever it was I did "wrong." I MUST have
done something wrong for the whole thing to fall apart the way it seems
to have done.
Now to hear that you, who I consider one of the Y2K "high rollers,"
are experiencing the same thing makes me feel better, and not a little
confused. If other groups around the country are in this same boat,
it makes me wonder about a "Greater Hand" being laid on the situation.
Is there a larger pattern effecting us?
I've had to content myself with just getting the word out. I've started
doing a daily three-minute radio spot called the "Y2K Briefing": A credible
quote, some recent facts on one aspect of the Y2K issue, an admonition
and a prep hint. I'm still available for the weekly meetings, but like
you, have somewhat changed my thinking on what my role might be.
Thanks for being there.
Redway, California, USA
THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM
It seems that folks all over are experiencing your mild depression --
I think it's a combo of the Kosovo Flu and the calm, sort of, before
the real storm. There will be a real surge of interest in about six
to eight weeks, but right now, until Spring actually arrives, we all
seem to be overwhelmed and are mainly just trying to collect ourselves.
I have briefly discussed this with some of my cohorts and we all agree
we need to spend some introspective time to organize the next phase.
I am through with the talking phase and, like you, I am now in the example
phase. Time will tell if that makes a bigger impact on what we all need
to take care of.
Thank you for being there to help guide and inspire.
Suzanne E. Wilson
Seattle, Washington, USA
HONEST, HELPFUL THINKING
You recently wrote:
"All my adult life, I have expected the current world order to be swept
away and a new one to emerge in its place. I have also identified trigger
mechanisms (like earth changes and messianic re-appearances) that I
thought would topple the status quo. So far, none of the dramatic earth-shaking
events I expected have taken place, nor, in my opinion, are they likely
to. I have, in fact, spent a good deal of time systematically investigating
and debunking my own misguided beliefs.
"While many of my beliefs have not withstood the test of serious inquiry,
one core belief has: our world is passing through a time of profound
"Some part of me does, however, continue to expect dramatic, worldwide
changes to swoop in and turn our comfy everyday world upside down. And
Y2K, while not the kind of trigger mechanism I originally expected,
fits the bill -- which makes me profoundly suspicious: Is Y2K as serious
as it seems to be, or are my apocalyptic inclinations blowing it up
into something it isn't?"
That's some of the most honest, and helpful, thinking I've encountered
in a good while. Thank you!
I've been coordinating group preparedness orders here in Grass Valley/Nevada
City, working with Sheri Nakken and others. Sheri and I feel much as
you do about how Y2K transformation preparedness efforts are trending.
Grass Valley/Nevada City, California, USA
IT IS LIKE YOU ARE INSIDE MY HEAD, SPIRIT & SOUL
Wow, David, it is like you are inside my head, spirit and soul. What
you have written is exactly what I feel, too. That's all I have time
to write right now. Whewwwwwww!
Nevada City, California, USA
Coordinator, Western Nevada County Y2K Preparedness Network
THE WRITING ON THE WALL
[The following was sent by Sheri Nakken to her online mailing list.
It consists of a note from Sheri, followed by a post from Gary North
that he wrote in response to the Kosovo crisis. We include them both
here as "food for thought."]
I often compare the Y2K situation to the situation in Europe before
the Jews and others were rounded up and killed. Some people saw the
writing on the wall and got out and I wonder what it took for them to
leave everything, even though no one else believed them. We have the
same situation here in Kosovo, and possibly in Montenegro shortly. And
we have Y2K...
--- Sheri Nakken
From Gary North:
Y2K Denial and the Ethnic Albanian Mindset:
"It was obvious by the beginning of 1999 that the ethnic Albanians in
Kosovo would be in for big trouble this year. In the past 10 days, over
300,000 of them have become refugees. Another 1.6 million are facing
oppression and will be tempted to leave.
"What if you were an ethnic Albanian? What if you had read the foreign
press in January, watched what was happening in Kosovo, and decided
to leave before you were forced out? What if you had warned your friends?
Would they have joined you in the exodus?
"No. But 310,000 have changed their minds in the last 10 days. Now they
must join the exodus when it is becoming hard to find a place of refuge.
In January, some of them could have gotten out with some of their capital.
"They knew what the Serbs could do to them. Now they are doing it --
systematically, methodically. Should they be surprised? No more than
any unarmed ethnic minority is in the midst of a well-armed, hostile
majority. Think of the Armenians in 1915. Think of the Chinese in Indonesia
in 1965. Most of them sat tight. They hoped for the best. Dead hope.
"This is reality. Large social systems cannot change rapidly except
detrimentally. Large numbers of people will not accept really bad news
until it is thrust on them.
"But a remnant can get out while the getting is good -- to the boos
and tongue-clicking of those who will follow their lead when it is too
"Denial. It's hard to overcome."
ECHOED MANY OF MY OWN THOUGHTS
Mostly I skim through the weekly Y2K Report, but I read all of Part
One of the VisionQuest Report as I found it echoed many of my own thoughts
as I was writing my book, "Surviving the Meltdown."
There's a wonderful expression: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't
mean the world isn't out to get you." I think that kinda sums up the
way a lot of people feel at the moment.
When we first started writing "Surviving the Meltdown" over here in
England, we thought that we must be nuts. Apart from a couple of articles
in the press predicting the usual planes falling from the sky scenarios,
and comforting reassurances from government that everything will be
all right on the night, there wasn't much to find. In fairness until
about mid-1998, most people in Britain thought it was a huge hoax being
perpetrated by computer manufacturers in an effort to boost sales, and
that one day Bill gates would announce a cure.
We all know that really is the "You Wish" scenario. However, even though
we have one government body readily admitting that 40 percent of British
businesses are planning to wait and see how badly they are hit, the
official line is still that there is no need to worry.
I'd liken that to sitting between the rails and waiting to see how bad
the injuries are after the train smacks into your body at 75 mph. But
hasn't it always been like this?
Back in 1914 millions of young men signed up to cross the channel to
France to take part in a war that "would be all over by Christmas."
In 1928 the newspaper headlines were awash with suggestions of eternal
prosperity and economic growth. In 1939 Neville Chamberlain stood on
the tarmac at Croydon Airport and said, "I have in my hand a piece of
paper, signed by Mr. Hitler, in which he assures us that there will
be no war in Europe."
The list goes on and on: Vietnam, Korea, Gulf War Syndrome, GM foods,
Thalidomide, and now Kosovo. Let's face it, you guys have a President
who went on prime time TV and stated that he did not have a sexual relationship
with "that woman," and the net result was years of expensive legal debate
trying to establish precisely what a sexual relationship was. In the
end, the final outcome was that commerce triumphed over right.
As you look back across the 20th Century, you cannot but realize that
the public statement and private truth only rarely occupy the same ground.
However, for the great mass of society, living in corporate conformity
and reliant on the six o'clock news for their information and Jerry
Springer for their amusement, the concept that the whole infrastructure
could be unraveled by two invisible computer digits is so totally alien
that they simply cannot grasp it. Unquestionably, when faced with such
a huge and challenging concept, the easiest refuge is disbelief.
Last week I was interviewed by a journalist from one of our leading
newspapers. A bright girl, well educated, and in her mid twenties, she
had taken the book home the night before to skim through it and find
some controversial bits to ask me questions about. She confessed that
she found the whole subject so fascinating that she stayed up all night
reading the book cover to cover. She totally floored me when she asked
if I planned to take my own advice and spend the summer learning to
As someone in their mid-40s, cooking is not a chore but a pleasure,
and I was amazed at the suggestion that this was in some way a rare
skill. In fact, in a straw poll around the newspaper office, we found
that none of them ever cooked. Or chopped logs. Or sewed up shirts.
Or planted vegetables. Or mended their cars. As one of them pointed
out, "We're the 'boil-in-a-bag' generation. We've never known any world
other than one run by computers where everything is instantly available."
I don't know about you, but I think that is sad. Not only have these
people lost many mind-enhancing skills, they no longer have a sense
Certainly, the millennium meltdown message is a very long way from getting
across over here in Europe. But perhaps it is because the implications
of accepting it are so great that it would, as you rightly say, bring
a total paralysis to society as people panic trying to prepare for the
One of the things I would say, as an independent journalist with a very
open mind and no strong religious practice, is that NHNE's reporting
of the situation has been the most accurate and unbiased that I have
seen. You have followed your own path and simply pointed others to where
they can learn and make their own journeys of discovery. Yes, it is
very easy to get to the stage of thinking "with all these people saying
I'm wrong, maybe I am." Somehow, I don't think you are.
I have been asked by THE TIMES in London to submit a piece of future
fiction that takes the idea of a post apocalyptic society in which we
are returned to an agrarian lifestyle, but in which the Internet somehow
survives. Although it is theoretically an unlikely possibility, it could
just happen. But I wonder: Would it be a force for good or evil? Or
could it take on a more frightening significance? If that scene does
come to pass, let's pray that you and I still both have a working terminal!
Keep the faith guys. You're doing a good job. And don't forget the prophet
is often without honor in his own country.
Tunbridge Wells, England
MY HEART GOES OUT
You asked for comments! Well, I know very little about the technology
behind this bug, but I almost hope that it causes a LARGE disruption
in our world. My husband and I have been through hard times; we know
how to survive (and are preparing for TEOTWAWKI), but my heart goes
out to those who have never been through any survival struggles. Those
who live in the big cities that don't even know how to plant a garden
(or have a yard to plant one in!); the "younger generation" who have
known nothing but this affluent society. What will they do when they
can't get what they want? The possibilities for evil are astounding.
May God see us through this.
KARL MARX, SPACE INVADERS & Y2K
As an eight-year-old boy growing up in Denver in the 60's, my school
periodically held air raid drills. At the teacher's command, we'd giggle
and slide under our desks, clasping our hands over the back of our heads.
And I'd close my eyes tightly, giggling, imagining the boom and mushroom
I'd try to imagine then, what in this great big dangerous world could
possibly bring peace between us and the feared communist Soviet Union.
I'd imagine an attack on Earth from outer space. Under attack from a
common enemy, I'd imagine the U.S. and the Soviet Union joining forces
to battle these invaders from space.
Thirty years later, the risks from the Y2K bug remind me of this. The
Y2K bug is an enemy common to all but perhaps the most technologically
Today, the Soviet Union and its communist ideology no longer exist.
Karl Marx's economic system (called "communism") held that the people
would follow a plan developed by their leaders. It required that each
individual follow this plan for the good of the society. It required
the sacrifice of individual freedoms, but in so doing, all in the system
Communism didn't work on this planet, because this planet is inhabited
by human beings, a species that was better suited for an economic system
called capitalism. Capitalism, you see, held that the society as a whole
would benefit if each individual were free to maximize his own welfare.
Considering only ourselves and competing in a cutthroat profit driven
style, this would benefit the whole.
It's ironic, then, that today the threat of the Y2K bug, the common
enemy, can only be ameliorated on a global level by the coordination
and communication espoused by Karl Marx's elusive and failed theory.
Perhaps it is true when they say that communism could only work in heaven.
Newport, Rhode Island, USA
I SEE Y2K AS A GLOBAL RITE OF PASSAGE
I, too, wonder about the significance of the Y2K bug in the larger scheme
of things. But I seem to be more convinced than you that we are entering
a time of a major shift in consciousness, earth changes, a new age.
So many of the wisdom carriers of the indigenous peoples have been seeing
the signs. So many ancient prophesies coming to fruition. So much focused
But none of what I have heard had led me to believe that something as
mundane and absurd as a computer "bug" would be the catalyst of transformation,
the ill wind that blew down this fragile house of cards. Of course,
this "bug" in the works is symbolic of the avarice, the hubris, the
shortsightedness, and the selfishness which has been the foundation
of our global economic culture and which allowed such a mistake to become
embedded into the very heart of our global economic infrastructure.
Ivan Illich once said that we have seen many crises within the industrial
system, but that one day we would see a crisis OF the industrial system.
It seems that Y2K could very well be that crisis.
Will it end the world as we know it? I don't think so -- transformations
are rarely cataclysmic. But it will plant more deeply and broadly the
seeds of doubt and mistrust in the present order as well as sowing the
seeds of hope and eagerness for the more sustaining and sustainable
one that our souls long for.
As a visionquest guide and rite of passage facilitator, I am aware of
the pregnant possibility that lies within a crisis. I understand the
power of intent, and I know the efficacy of surrender to the larger
forces which guide our evolution.
I see Y2K as a global rite of passage which has the potential to sufficiently
destabilize the dominant paradigm to allow an opening for the Creative
Force to reenter our lives and inspire and encourage us toward building
the world that many of us have long dreamed and imagined.
But, as in any visionquest, the manifestation of the vision depends
on the clarity of our intent, the discipline of our preparation and
"fasting" (i.e. holding fast to that intent), and our willingness to
surrender our need to control the outcome and trust the wisdom of the
Universe to guide us to the next campsite on our long journey home.
Emergency Management Director
Readsboro, Vermont, USA
WE DON'T WANT TO MEET SOME OF OUR REFLECTIONS
Y2K is a strange enigma. I just came from a meeting in San Rafael, California
featuring well-known speaker/writer/organizer Meg Wheatley. After she
spoke there was a chance to interact within the group. When the question
came up concerning the public's seemingly slow response to the awesome
unknown that awaits us, Meg offered the thought that the thing people
were resisting was a deep recognition of our total interdependence with
everyone and every place on the planet: we really don't want to meet
some of our reflections and some (possibly many) of our fellow beings
in any real, mutually vulnerable, and/or intimate way. This is precisely
what Y2K will have us do. We will have to cooperate to survive. The
higher and more coherent the level of cooperation the more heavenly
we will become. The less the cooperation, the lower we go mentally,
and possibly physically. It seems, once again, that love is the bottom
I want to be working in "the Love Network" with an eye on God; doing
the practical organizing work of life, one moment at a time. All of
our relations are exceedingly important and exceedingly relevant to
the mystery of ourselves. As I approach Y2K I'm becoming more vividly
aware of this every day. We must transcend our primitive envy, jealousy,
and violent scapegoating -- and find our unity in a higher order.
Petaluma, California, USA
THE MISSING PIECE
I found your Y2K article and thoughts very much on the mark.
My sense of the people in my community is that they seem to be waiting,
but for exactly what is unclear. What comes to mind is the old phrase,
"The Eleventh Hour Solution," but maybe more aptly would be, "The Eleventh
Hour Direction." Either way, the feeling is waiting for the missing
piece to fall into place. Perhaps when we do the visionquest, we'll
get a glimpse or clue towards what that missing piece is or the next
direction or step to take will be.
I do know that individually, most people have a good sense of the potential
problems with the Y2K, and that they have quietly rejected the more
extreme versions presented by the doomsayers and the everything's fine
group. Most are somewhere in the middle of what Y2K would/could bring.
Preparation could be an area type of issue. For example, this is earthquake
country, so many of us have had earthquake preparedness kits in place
for some time now. Updating and expanding them to include addition types
of supplies is not that big of an issue for most of us.
However, I feel that much can be attributed to a lack of direction or
vision towards the new millennium itself rather than just from Y2K.
The only other thing I could add is that I also have had dreams (last
year and March of this year) in which I came across groups of people
who were like zombies, or under some sort of mind control despite anything
I said or did. And in most my recent March 99 dream, I was aware of
something very disturbing: that there was a sophistication behind how
they [the ringleaders] managed to induce innocent, unaware people
to join their group: they presented a nice, warm, friendly, safe, loving
family community setting as the drawing card; an oasis from all the
worldly troubles, where everyone's main job was to socialize and eat
sugar-coated foods and sugar-laced drinks which were provided by the
leaders. All their concerns and worries were answered for them by leaders
of the group and the group leaders knew exactly what they were doing.
The dream is too long to describe in detail, but the overall theme was
one of frustration: of seeing what was happening, but having my words
fall on the deaf ears of most of the participates and resignation that
their choices were theirs. I was also concerned about not getting caught
by the group leaders. In the end, I succeeded in fighting my way out
of the oasis and bringing a few "innocents" with me. But when we turned
looked back, we saw new "innocents" arriving at their gates. Then we
saw another smaller group outside the oasis that was buying candy from
a vending machine and feeding it to themselves and their children. Somehow,
the candy from the vending machine contained advertisements (and tickets)
into the oasis.
I felt saddened by the choices made by the people in the oasis, but
understood that they are being deceived by the group leaders. And that's
where the dream ended: with me observing and wondering just what I could/should
I wanted to share this dream -- especially after reading yours.
Please don't stop sending out the message. Even if we can't reach very
many of the people in the oasis, we still can do much good for those
buying candy at the vending machines...
Martinez, California, USA
Y2K & IMPROVISATION
I thought I would share a generic positive possibility with respect
to the Y2K situation.
I am working as a contractor at a major international financial institution,
testing software programs for Y2K compliance. I find the mentality the
same as the one that created the problem: there are more efforts towards
defending the institution against charges that they did not do what
they should (paper work, "defensible" testing, legal forms against lawsuits,
etc. ) than in really fixing the problem. In many cases they are overwhelmed
with the magnitude of the problem.
So what's the good news? For over a decade I was a university professor
specializing in a field in sociology called "ethnomethodology." As ethno-medicine
studied folk medicine, ethno-methodology studied folk methodology or
folk methods of reasoning. Consistently, we found that every human activity
from physics to deciding where to look for a parking place, involved
a large amount of creative, seat-of-the-pants improvising. Even the
most rigorous, rule-governed science had, at its core, a nexus of creative
practices like "wait and see," "it will do for now," "it's vague now,
but it will get clear later," etc. Recent studies in cognitive psychology
and linguistics make it clear that humans typically must make decisions
with inadequate information and only a limited amount of data.
What we found was how good people were at improvising when they were
not interfered with. We watched cars get though intersections when the
stop lights did not work; we watched hundreds of people cross both ways
across Harvard square without even touching each other -- without any
formal rules for navigating their bodies.
In the software world, I see programs released to the public regularly
with perhaps 80 or 90 known, substantial bugs. Yet the programmers muddle
their way through the code and routinely manage to fix things as they
come up, in ways they really do not know. Often, the more management
imposes a formal project "methodology," the slower things get fixed.
In sum, there is a wealth of human ability that takes over when things
must be remedied, but the horizons are no longer clear. It is seldom
acknowledged by the planners and managers of the world. We may, however,
do far better than anticipated when confronted with challenges that
our organizations and superiors have not pre-programmed for.
Oakland, California, USA
THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR?
Concerning your reasons as to why the government is suggesting three
days of supplies: another option is that if they can get you to save
up for three days, they've got their foot in the door and can then get
you to stockpile more with less popular resistance. This is a common
technique in psychological operations (psy-ops): if I urge you to save
up for six months of hardships, your most common behavior is resistance
due to habit, fear, prejudice or inertia. But if I can talk you into
a smaller step, such as three days, I know I have a small victory already
when I come back.
If next month, the Feds up the ante to a week, we'll know that this
is the strategy.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD GROUP
I have read your Y2K discussion and fit in the middle of the road group.
I also believe that we are in a time of great changes. By this time
next year we will know the truth of Y2K.
I am a senior computer analyst for a large firm in Phoenix. I have been
working on Y2K projects since last summer. I don't think anyone knows
the total impact of Y2K. I know a lot of companies are very worried
about being sued. We are required to document all of our testing and
get lots of signoffs. This alone tells me that businesses recognize
that in spite of their best efforts there will be problems.
I recently had a discussion with a business partner that provides data
by satellite. I asked what kind of preparations they had made for Y2K
and was told they weren't really concerned.
My view of the entire situation is that no matter what we all do to
correct the Y2K problem, we are going to overlook some things. Anyone
who has ever tested and implemented a software program knows there is
a 10 to 20 percent chance of a failure in production. You just hope
it is not to serious and you can find and fix it quickly. I think we
will see a lot of this activity during the first few weeks of January.
This is called "fix on failure" (FOF). Whether a company has spent years
preparing for Y2K, or no time at all, this activity will still happen.
The degree of the problem will be significantly mitigated by all of
the software remediation and testing.
I decided last year that preparation was the wisest form of insurance.
I hope I never need it, but I have enough emergency supplies to last
for a month or two. There are many other emergency situations that could
occur: earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. Why not just be prepared for any
emergency? I would suggest 30 days as a minimum because there could
be disruptions in food supplies on and off for an unknown time. I think
it is important to recognize that we have an international economy and
depend on many other countries for some of our goods. Other countries
seem to be even less prepared and have less money to spend on Y2K remediation.
This could cause some spot outages for 3 to 4 months. This is all guess
work on my part.
I believe each of us should make those preparations that we are comfortable
with. Last week, I decided I wanted a potable water filtration system.
When I called my supplier, they said they were all out and they didn't
know when they would get more in. Whatever actions you choose to take,
do it now or your choices may become limited. It is definitely not the
end of the world, but our comfortable world could become a lot more
challenging to live in. Will you be ready for the change?
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Y2K ISN'T SPECIAL, IT'S JUST MORE UNIVERSAL
My occupation is data processing systems analyst. I have worked on Y2K
in two different large organizations. From this perspective, I believe
most large organizations will have only minor problems in their major
money handling systems: the vast majority of people will get their bills
and have their checks when they are supposed to. I also believe many
small businesses will be caught with their pants down. Many small businesses
rely on outdated, non-Y2K-compliant systems and PC programs for their
accounting and billing and have done nothing to address the Y2K problem
or choose not to spend the time or money to do so. They will be rudely
awakened by this problem.
I see Y2K as no different from various other issues that have happened
in a technical society: things break or don't work as expected and technology
gets replaced regularly. Y2K is just another technology that requires
change that happens to be predictable ahead of time, just like rain
in the spring.
People may compare Y2K to the Titanic, but to me, Y2K is more like the
Atlantic ocean the Titanic sailed upon. The Titanic was only one of
hundreds of ships sailing the Atlantic. Most of them worked fine and
delivered their cargo and passengers safely. The Titanic just happened
to be one that didn't. It's performance didn't live up to its advertising.
The Titanic didn't stop transatlantic shipping or bring the world to
an end. The same will be true of Y2K. Most people will fix it with little
fanfare or problems, but there will be some big flashy exceptions. These
will get the most press because we like disasters!
Our personal issue is predicting if we have set sail on a company that
will hit a Y2K iceberg and if it does, will it take us down with it?
We face this problem every time we drive a car (remember the Corvair,
Pinto and Audi 5000, or the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, or the Oakland Bay
Bridge during the Santa Cruz earthquake?), fly on an airplane (remember
the Electra and now the 737?) or buy a new house (remember Love Canal
or asbestos insulation?).
Y2K may be more an issue of arrogance rather than calamity. Millions
eat hamburgers, potato chips and smoke cigarettes, none of which are
particularly healthy. Millions more live in Los Angeles, Tokyo, Mexico
City and San Francisco, all of which WILL be devastated by an earthquake.
Other millions live on the coast of Florida, Bangladesh and Central
America which will be inundated, again and again, by storms. We know
these things aren't good for us and the negative results of them are
well documented. BUT WE STILL DO THEM IN VAST NUMBERS ANY WAY!
Y2K isn't special, it's just more universal. Life will go on.
Don't look for worldwide apocalypse in Y2K. It may be a personal disaster
if you happen to be caught as those on the Titanic were, but for the
rest of us it will make for just another sensational disaster movie.
Maybe we should be looking to purchase the movie rights from the companies
that go belly up from Y2K rather than stockpiling bags of beans we will
My thoughts on a new order:
I would love to have a world were people weren't greedy and were helpful
to each other and companies didn't make money selling useless or harmful
products. Thinkers throughout time have recognized this vision for their
lives as well. I am personally closer to realizing this in my own life
than I was a decade ago. I know, however, in my day-to-day life, the
most important question still remains:
"Where are the cookies?"
Salem, Oregon, USA
THE HIDDEN CODE OF Y2K
"Only two things threaten our existence:
A breakdown of society as we know it;
The continuation of society as we know it."
--- Jan Blum, Seeds Blum Company
Every lesson that mankind must learn to continue life on this planet,
with the present power of our technology, is inherent within one seemingly
random computer event, Y2K. These lessons include:
1) Our competitive, power-driven instincts must quickly evolve into
co-operative ones (As Martin Luther King, Jr. said: "The choice is no
longer between violence and non-violence, but rather between non-violence
2) We must cease the creation of our nuclear weapons, power plants and
nuclear waste as they pose a continuing threat to the entire species,
now and for many generations yet unborn.
3) We must stop polluting at our present level. Most pollution comes
from the First World (one American pollutes more than 500 Nepalese).
4) We must transform our near-gluttonous materialism (which is the source
of much of our pollution) and our intoxication with physical pleasuring
(which continues to bind us to the physical, not spiritual, plane).
5) We must return our value system to one more centered in people and
relationship, as opposed to the present one centered on power, money,
and things. These offer only the illusion of happiness, not its reality,
which is found in our relationships.
6) We must further develop, and eventually convert to, decentralized,
non-polluting sources of energy (wind, solar, wave, hydro, etc.). There
are less than 50 years of fossil fuels left and their present use is
destroying the environment.
7) We must take our other technological threats seriously (global warming,
biological, nuclear and chemical weapons, El Nino, ozone level, pollution,
etc.). Like Y2K they are threatening, but unlike Y2K their deadline
is not known.
8) We must become more self-reliant, depending more on ourselves and
each other, as opposed to relying on our leaders and governments, who
often do not have our best interests at heart.
9) The large corporations must adjust their value system to include
not only profit but concern for the environment and people as well.
Presently, as their size and power increases, their greed and short
term thinking are eating through the earth and corrupting our democracies.
10) There must be a renewal of the use of non-hybrid seeds. At the present
rate that seed companies are promoting and selling hybrid seeds (seeds
that are only good for one season), in 20 years there will be almost
no non-hybrid seeds available. We would have genetically engineered
all food seeds on the planet to be non-renewable.
11) Our unabated barrage of sexuality, vulgarity and commercialism in
our media must be reduced. It is degrading to the human spirit and undermines
the creation and continuation of stable families.
12) Just as American Indian leaders planned seven generations ahead,
so must we consider and plan for the generations that will follow us.
13) Technology and material growth must cease to be an end in itself.
We must ask "What is it for?"
Every lesson listed above is vital if we are to continue on this planet
with the power of our existing technology is listed above. Failure to
learn any one of them continues to put our species at risk. Y2K has
the ability to teach us every lesson. The chances of this being coincidence
is infinitesimally small. On the other hand, the probability of this
event being part of an Intelligent design is mathematically almost certain.
And just to be sure our interest was caught, it arrives on the nanosecond
of the new millennium.
If learned, the above lessons will create a major paradigm shift on
the planet. One that is absolutely necessary if we are to continue here
much longer. These lessons will not be learned easily. As with all human
lessons, they will be learned through our pain. But they will be learned.
This event is an Intelligently created and guided unfolding, imbued
with almost unimaginable love and compassion for our species. As individuals
asking what can we do to usher in this new paradigm, the answer is clear.
In addition to whatever action or work we feel called to do-we must
love ourselves and each other as much as we can for the new paradigm
is a world based not on fear, but love.
Y2K Solutions Group, Inc.
GET TO KNOW OUR MAKER
I'd like to share some of my thoughts about Y2K. Most of this is what
I've seen happen in my local area and also what I've heard personally
from others that is happening in our country -- take it however you
will. Ultimately, it's up to each individual as to what they believe,
or how they act on what they believe.
In preparation for Y2K, it must be noted that our military is taking
action. Last fall ('98) our local military base started "letting go"
ALL of it's civilian personnel. Why?
Also note that the Army National Guard has told its men that they are
going on ACTIVE duty sometime in December of 1999. Getting the picture
On top of that, it's been said that our own President Clinton has already
put in EXECUTIVE ORDERS to be able to call NATIONAL EMERGENCY and MARTIAL
LAW "just in case" it's needed. The picture becomes clearer now? This
country has NEVER seen martial law before!
A true prophet of God I know, someone whom I've known all my life, said
to me last fall, "Y2K is going to be a 'bump in the road.'" I asked
him, "Oh, you see fair weather ahead? No recession? No depression?"
His response was this, "I didn't say that. Y2K will be a 3 - 4 month
bump in the road, government is in for major change in 2000. Presidency
will have changes significant enough that those who remember former
presidencies will know the institution has been totally altered, however
the present generation will just go with the flow." What's going to
happen that would cause such an extreme change in our very governmental
processes after 200 years?
This brings us to the famous visions of Dannion Brinkley. He has had
98 out of 117 prophetic visions come true so far since 1975 when he
had his incredible near death experience from being hit by lightning.
For his part he sees this:
"Boxes 10 and 11 came in rapid succession. They revealed scenes of the
economic collapse of the world. In general terms, these visions showed
a world in horrible turmoil by the turn of the century, one that resulted
in a new world order that was truly one of feudalism and strife. In
one of the visions, people lined up to take money out of banks. In another,
the banks were being closed by the government. The voice that accompanied
the visions told me that this would take place in the 90's and would
be the beginning of an economic strife that would lead to the bankruptcy
of America by the year 2000..." Sounds a lot like the Y2K scenario,
Remember Dannion's visions came in 1975, long before we knew what we
know now about people trying to make a run on the banks to withdraw
their money for Y2K preparation. This is a possible scenario that could
happen. It's not set in stone. The future is not set yet. We can all
make the difference -- each of us -- by preparing without panic, a little
at a time, instead of waiting till the last minute and running to the
I keep all of these things in mind, and take them all with a grain of
salt. The most important thing any of us can do to prepare is to get
to know our maker, to be at peace within and know that all is in Spirit's
hands -- and to hear the right voice within, the small still voice,
and take action according to that. How can one go wrong there? Although
we must keep our eyes and ears open and heed warnings appropriately,
I feel that the Y2K problem within each of us is what truly needs to
be dealt with. Fear and confusion has no place here. Change the inner
and the outer takes care of itself!
Thanks for letting me give my two cents.
WE CAN FACE THIS & SURVIVE
I was aware of Y2K as a vague sensation, a need to know more. In August
of last year, Peter in his "Earth Prophecy List" forwarded the three-section
mailing from NHNE (August 19, 1998). After reading them, I went almost
catatonic for two months. Finally, I shared the information with my
We began by making copies of the NHNE reports, some 42 pages, and giving
them to friends. Then we began assessing our needs and making plans
for the future. We have purchased a 12 kW generator, and have started
putting away food and extra water, and non-hybrid seeds.
I have had a lady set up a website, which should be online this week,
to allow people in Nevada to communicate. It is because we live some
28 miles from town that we have provided this outlet for others:
Personally, we are concentrating our community awareness with our closest
God bless you for the work you are doing. I send a little money when
I can. I, too, see the need for spiritual strength in these times. If
I can only do one thing, I want to make all those I come in contact
with aware that we can face this and survive -- perhaps even if the
prophecy of Nostradamus or the third Message of Fatima do occur and
cause even more serious problems in June.
Sharon Lee Taylor
PahRahdise Ranch, Nevada, USA
SHARE INFORMATION, FOCUS ON YOUR FAMILY
Burnout is certainly a fact of life when you deal with preparations
for Y2K, earthquakes, economic hits, or whatever else occurs. The net
of it seems to be to share information with those who evince interest;
make comments to the uniformed; and focus the majority of your energy
on getting your family prepared -- that is tough enough. The others
have made their choice.
Looking at matters from an astrological perspective, it looks as though
the USA will muddle through the various predictions and prophecies,
but will not be able to coast. June/July 1999; September 1999; (possibly
November for an economic hit if Gordon Michael Scallion is correct);
mid-February 2000; and mid-April 2000 look to be the most likely points
when the USA will be learning some lessons. The worst part of Y2K apparently
is not going to show up until February 2000, and for a number of months
afterward, but you may be looking at some extreme actions or events
in February 2000 related to solar flares or behavior of legislative
bodies. The current military action around Kosovo seems likely to "peak
and valley" until the February-April 2000 period when more significant
action is taken.
Assuming the information about Nibiru (Marduk) (12th Planet) is correct,
then 2003 could signal more disturbances.
P.S. Politically, there would seem to be changes affecting the White
House either around May 22, 1999; June 1999; or at the latest, September
1999. The current resident is not likely to finish his term.
NOW IS TIME TO STRETCH INTO UNKNOWN TERRITORY
An event as huge as Y2K in the lives of six billion souls will not return
us to the status quo. This is a node of transition. Now is time to stretch
into unknown territory, adapting and inventing, pouring our resources
into finding answers where none have been provided for us. Y2K is an
unprecedented disaster, or we can consider it an amazing opportunity.
Bonds of the past will be severed. We could surrender, broken and confused,
or we can create novel systems which we have only begun to imagine.
We have an abundance of tools and answers at hand. Now is the time to
synthesize the next step in human civilization.
Y2K is a time for retrospection, introspection, and foresight. Y2K,
global warming, and oil depletion mean a similar fate to the world as
we know it: it will no longer function as the status quo. Any of these
could precipitate TEOTWAWKI. Whether the next era in civilization is
disastrous or transformative is up to us.
To many, the changeover makes economic and ecological sense. As we realize
that products and services will not be forthcoming from the multinationals,
in pervasive self-determination, we will begin providing alternatives.
If distribution of goods breaks down, we reserve the right to supply,
produce, and distribute goods and services ourselves in order to keep
ourselves economically and physically viable. Regulations and taxes
shall cease on food, construction, health care, transportation, energy,
and bartering. Locally owned and operated businesses will crop up everywhere.
Through reasoning and intuition, we will wrought minimal laws for our
times, weaving a new social fabric. Demand the support of government
and industry in gaining widespread use of alternatives. No more patent
buyouts and burying. No more single interest. No more subsidizing the
unsustainable, let alone the unthinkable. Let's gaze into the future
and act for the benefit of the seventh generation hence.
Answers to our immediate dilemma paradoxically lie in long term sustainability.
Those already tuned in will have the easiest transition in this great
disruption. With imagination and creativity, we will not only survive
but also pass along a verdant world to our descendants.
Does this sound like another alien spaceship rescue theory: Y2K relieving
us of our mistakes in one easy step? Too simplistic, too idealistic,
too ironic? It IS so unbelievably perfect! Those with everything to
lose are not laughing. Those working overtime to fix the problem are
not overjoyed. Those of us who resonate with the earth are bathed in
the glory of the moment. Those who see a more perfect union between
humankind and nature rest assured that it will be so, it must be so
for our survival, sooner or later.
It will be difficult, requiring tremendous output, calm, focus, and
sincerity to right the human world after this fall. It will be up to
us to right the wrongs. Rebuilding society in a new image will be the
most significant achievement of humanity yet.
Discussing and creating guidelines for the new millennium, the greatest
hurdle requires a jump in mindset from the indoctrination of the status
quo. Thinking for ourselves is a trait too often defeated by public
education. However, we will find resourcefulness, spontaneity, and common
sense, beneficial attributes when facing the unknown.
There is a potential for a tremendous loss of population; what are successful
survival traits? Whom do we trust? Whom do we help? Whom do we support?
Whom do we obey? Your choices will become critical. Reach into your
heart for answers. Focus on a vision.
Know that chaos comes first. Know that chaos gives you permission to
find your deep soul, to find who you really are and express your best.
With trust, humility, and sharp wits we will counter the demands on
our culture in chaos.
Peace of Mind
Live in the country.
Have your own source of water.
Find alternative energy.
Learn what is garbage.
Do something useful.
Copyright 1999 by NewHeavenNewEarth
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